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Key Topics

Navigating the dynamics of death, grief and loss, from brain fog to finding a sense of control. Arguing over estates and why 70% of people don't make plans for what happens after they die. Explaining the mechanics of probate with a story about picking berries. Being a stage magician and how magic helps with storytelling. What we can learn from near-death experiences. Why patience matters in law as well as in marriage. Swimming and mindfulness.

Recorded 6 May 2022

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Audio Highlights

Episode appetiser - The emotions behind disputes over estates (31 sec)


Robert explains what probate is to a 10 year old (59 sec)


The life changing learning experience that Robert would gift someone (59 sec)


How Robert includes magic in estate planning presentations (22 sec)


How the loss of his mother inspired Robert to write his book (59 sec)


About Robert Kabacy

Robert Kabacy has been a lawyer in the estate planning and wealth transfer industries for more than twenty-five years. He grew up in the small town of Canby, Oregon, where he was a competitive swimmer. He attended law school to pursue his passion of helping others navigate a complicated legal and tax world and has an uncanny ability to explain complicated concepts in an easy-to-understand format. About Me is a result of the passing of his mother and experiencing firsthand the difficulty of losing a loved one while navigating the mechanics that go with it. He enjoys reading, stage/parlor magic, and outdoor activities. He still swims almost daily (though no longer competitively). Learn more at

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